Entangled Fight (on the ground!) w/ Private Citizen and weapons 5/30/25

Here is a new, and extremely interesting case from NYC involving armed robbers with guns making contact and even going to the ground with an off duty cop. 

BUT WAIT! “Cecil, you said private citizen in the title!” Yes, because this was an off duty cop in normal everyday clothes. From all the other news reports I have seen, he was targeted as a victim because he was there, not because the robbers knew he was a cop. As far as they knew, he was an everyday person who was available to be their victim. Tom Givens has pointed out numerous times over the years that some of the best data points we have on how gunfights and crimes occur is from FBI and DEA agents being involved in such situations because they rarely are in any kind of identifiable uniform and as such, are identical analogues most of the time to private citizens. This event here is a perfect complement to his fantastic point. 

Take a look at the pictures. Two robbers, both with guns out, and not only do they attach to the victim, they both take him to the ground and remain there with him while they rob and beat him. Bad guys want control while they do what they need to do, and even with firearms they will over and over again make contact with their intended target. Bad guys will put themselves into an entanglement, including the ground often (certainly not every time, but statistically high enough to matter), and if we go around with blinders, it will be an already bad day made infinitely worse. 

https://nypost.com/2025/05/25/us-news/police-id-thug-who-beat-off-duty-cop-stole-his-gun-and-bust-his-dad-for-using-the-officers-credit-card/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=twitter

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