Don’t Go To The Ground. Especially When You Are Being Accelerated That Way.

One of the most common refrains heard in the Combatives/Self-defense/Tactical Firearms communities is “Never go to the ground in a fight”. It gets repeated over and over and is trotted out every time someone talks about the concept of grappling in a street fight. Here are a couple of short video clips that shows how moronic that advice actually is:

 

 

 

 

Now I know that as soon as someone reads and sees this, they are going to say something along the lines of “Well, that is not what I meant. I was talking about rolling around on the ground.” And their feeble excuse is invalid. When you speak only in absolutes and make everything black or white, you lose all rights to later attempt to adjust gradations of gray. Either use the phrase never go to the ground and live with being proven wrong, or refrain from dogma.

The simple fact is that both of those above vids (and I can add in hours more of similar stuff) are ample proof that going to the ground as an answer to the fight problem can be a fantastic solution.

And, again, people on the other side of the debate are going to say that this is fine and is a good idea, and maybe they even teach it. Except that there is no way they can. The plain truth is that the only way you can gain the ability to use techniques like this is to train in the context it needs to be in – GRAPPLING. You will not develop the ability to execute this type of ballistic throw unless you are training it against other people who know how to do it and defend against it, and have the ability to do so. In other words, you need to be on the mat in a place where a knowledgeable instructor with teach you wrestling, BJJ, Sambo, Judo, etc. Those are the only places you will gain that skill set. Not against partners in a combatives/ “street fighting” gym where they have no depth or breadth of experience in grappling. The people who performed those throws in the video clips spent a lot of time training grappling to do so.

And that is why I despise those who use the insipid cliché of “don’t go to the ground”. The only way to dictate where you are in a fight is to train the skill of controlling the other guy to prevent him from doing so and that is only learned effectively in a grappling oriented gym. Period. I have yet to see any video as the ones above where the victor executed a successful throw who was not trained extensively in a grappling environment. Don’t want to go to the ground? Fine, but then learn from the ones who know how to take you down. Not the guy who is showing you chin jabs and axe hands that were supposedly used in WW2.

3 thoughts on “Don’t Go To The Ground. Especially When You Are Being Accelerated That Way.”

  1. The way that guy landed from the drop seoi was downright horrific. As a hobbyist judoka, it’s about the only possibility that scares me about the sport.

  2. Purposely going to the ground in a street fight is down right insane. I’ve never been in or seen a street fight that was 1 on 1. Sure you might be able to control, defeat, choke, etc…one opponent, but when 2 more guys decide to tee off on you while you’re showing off your grappling skills… good luck with that.

    1. That may be the dumbest comment I have ever read. You could not have even have bothered to watch either of the videos. Nor apparently in your vast experience have you seen the literaly hundreds of videos easily seen online showing real street fights where grappling won. But please, continue to make ignorant and non-sensical comments and show the world your ignorance.

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